Star Trek Into Darkness

[The Queen]

If you want to find out about some of the problems I had with the film, I suggest you go here, but only if you want the movie spoiled or if you have seen the movie already: Star Trek into Darkness Spoilers and FAQ's

I just read this and started crying, I was laughing so hard.

[Drunk Monk]

I wasn't planning to drop $15 on this (plus another $11 on mozzarella stix and a coke) but the timing was right as I got to the Fast and Furious screener much earlier than anticipated. If you haven't seen 3D IMAX, you should really treat yourself when the next big 3Der comes along. I was tentative given Greg's post-production 3D filming comment, but then again, this film has a ton of CGI, and the star fields in 3D IMAX were pretty damn cool. I was thinking back to watching the original series on a crappy 10" TV set and getting the crap scared out of me by that damn salt vampire. That really disturbed me as a kid and I even have a crystallized memory of jumping up to turn off the TV because it scared me so. I'm over it now, of course. So watching ST in 3D IMAX, well, how far we come, boldly, where no man...oh you know how it goes...

It was enjoyable. The first one was definitely better as it was so surprisingly good. This one hits all the same notes, so it's not quite as good, not quite as fresh, but still amusing. It was really overblown with the triumphant soundtrack when something heroic went right. I was entertained throughout it although the tribble bit messed with me because even though this is an alternate timeline, tribbles aren't discovered until deep into the 5 year mission. SPOILER I also didn't care for the Iron Man 3 Pepper Potts deux ex machina tranfusion. It should have ended with Kirk just dying. That would have been so epic. END SPOILER

I feel ya on the originality part, Greg. I totally got ya on that now.

As for your 'odd moment' comment above, I have 3 words for you: Star Trek Breasts.

[Drunk Monk]

I was disappointed by Chris Pine's performance. In the first one, he captured Shatner's quirky gestures just enough. When he first to the Con, his posture was spot on, just like Shatner used to do. Quinto is uncanny as Spock. And Pegg kills me as Scotty, especially in this new one. In fact, all the characters capture the original cast really well, except maybe Saldana who takes Uhura to this totally different level - that's what I enjoyed so much about this reboot. But in this one, I wasn't feeling Kirk as strongly from Pine and as so much hinges on him, that was a definite shortcoming.

I should add that I saw this at the Metreon in true IMAX. That made the starship battles super cool.

Strangely, I was more struck by the random close-ups of weird aliens than Greg's 'odd moment'. The 'odd moment' has been one of the many criticisms floating around the web, but I feel that's from people who don't remember how sexy the original series was. If anything, it was odd because it was just black underwear. It should have been all silver like Shahna's outfit in Gamesters of Triskelion.

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

I was for the moment. It was just odd. The producers have actually come out and apologized for it. To which I say "What's the big deal?"

[Drunk Monk]

The whole kerfuffle about it is so absurd. I mean really - did those critics even watch the original Star Trek? It was hella sexy. Catwoman painted green writhing in a poisonous atmosphere? And who can forget Counselor Cleavage (even tho she wasn't in the original series, she upheld the Star Trek Breasts with honor, as did 7 of 9). That's my complaint about Saldana. That's where she fails as Uhura. Remember the Trouble with Tribbles where there was a tribble suffocating between Uhuru's ample bosoms? There's this story I remember about that. Apparently DeForest Kelley had this talent for sneaking objects into women's cleavage. He managed to do that with Nicols with the tribble during filming. According to trekkie lore, Nichelle burst out laughing right after that scene.

Ok, ok, enuf trekkie stuff. gotta get back to work. :o

[cranefly]

My.
God.

What did I just watch? What did Lady Cranefly and I just watch, wearing funny glasses?

Okay, we haven't had an outing in a long while, and this was a nice opportunity; and it can be sort of fun to watch spaceships getting blown up in outer space, and blown up more, and still more. But why did they have to ruin it by attempting characters, and plot, and conflict, and suspense? Because that's where it all went astray.

Again, I don't want to put this down too much, as it was a nice outing, and not without some entertainment value.

But I'm going to say something that may sound arrogant and could easily come back to bite me.

Which is...

My script is looking better all the time.

[Dr. Ivor Yeti]

Saw it. Liked it. IMAX 3-D was worth it.

[Drunk Monk]

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[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

Leonard Nimoy sure is busy for being retired. Is this like that time Jet Li gave up martial arts films?

[The Queen]

This made me smile.

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(Edited by Greg to embed video)

[Drunk Monk]

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you must be stuck in one of those space-time continuum episodes.

[The Queen]

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you must be stuck in one of those space-time continuum episodes.

Must be old age. I'm forgetting things. Well, I enjoyed it just as if it were fresh and new.

[Drunk Monk]

Jerry Garcia was once asked how he kept things fresh. He responded "Major memory lapses help."

[Drunk Monk]

I went back for the original Star Trek episode with Khan. It's a truly great one - a classic of the series. Kirk and Khan just vamp it up with their uber machoness. When Khan seduces Lt. McGivers, it's just so over-the-top. Montalban is so awesome as Khan. It's his greatest legacy aside from Mr. Rourke and Corinthian leather. If he were working today, he could totally own Dos Equis's Most Interesting Man role.

Odd observations: The Eugenics war was in 1990. Space ships were atomic-powered with transistors until 2018. Khan was allegedly a Sikh. The female costumes in the original Star Trek are still sexy, lots of leg, but a tad too much with the beehive hairdos. When Uhura gets bitch slapped by one of Khan's thugs, I was totally reaffirmed about my disregard for Saldana as the new Uhura. She lacks that fire of Nichols.

[Drunk Monk]

I started watching this too, right after Space Seed. I remember it being great, especially after the first Star Trek reunion on the big screen. I'm about halfway through, just before the big Nebula battle.

It's riddled with storyline issues, just like Into Darkness. I swear, trekkies take this stuff way too seriously and then they don't even remember how it was. The biggest issue I have from the start is with Chekov finding the Botany Bay crew first. Space Seed was first season. Chekov doesn't make the Enterprise crew until season two, a Roddenberry comment on the cold war. While they recognize each other in WoK, Khan and Chekov never met before. The other thing that really bugs me is that the rest of Khan's crew are so wimpy. In Space Seed, they are all super buff, big and sexy, and mostly dark haired. In WoK, they are mostly blonde and not as well endowed. The eugenics females have these crazy fishnet jumpsuits with angular bikinis underneath in SS. That really should have been maintained for WoK.

Anyway, I hope to see it through and then watch ID again, to see how it all flows together.