Prometheus

[thatguy]

I had high hopes. It is pretty to watch and does have Noomi. It rips off the first movie too much:

-Guys from the Company that are just there for the money
-Flame throwers (in Alien, Dallas jury-rigged them from onboard mining equipment. Why did this crew decide they needed them for an expedition?)
-An android (spoiler)who gets his head knocked off

It just has a lot of plot holes. Not just the ones noted here (spoiler alert): <!-- m --><a class="postlink" href="http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-holes-in-prometheus-deli.html">http://boingboing.net/2012/06/16/plot-h ... -deli.html</a><!-- m -->

...but also as a prequel to the first Alien film, they broke some of the connecting links (Spoiler Alert):

If the Space Jockey left his ship to chase Noomi in the lifeboat and was infected/killed there, then why did the survey crew from the Nostromo find him still sitting, piloting the crashed ship in Alien? Wouldn't the seat be empty?

Why didn't they find the remains of the others in the "original" expedition party on the Alien ship?

The sign off at the end isn't clear. If Noomi left that as the distress/warning signal that originally attracted The Nostromo/The Company, then wouldn't they have been able to decipher it in Alien, know it was a warning and GTF out of there?

(double spoiler if you haven't seen Alien, but what's wrong with you?!?)
If the expedition was out of communication range with Earth, Weyland dies there, his daughter dies there. No one returns. How does the Weyland Corp get the idea that they want to covertly send the Nostromo team to pick up this WMD alien for military use?

I guess Ridley Scott wasn't aware of the plot points from Alien.

It would have been better if Weyland was on ice and they had to get advice from him about how to disable a smart bomb.

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--tg

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

Pretty much what thatGuy stated. It was zooming along with weird aliens and strange questions and they were walking through a vast field of jars instead of eggs and Charlize Theron was being marvelously bitchy and then the wheels fell off.

I would argue that Ridley Scott is a great visualist but as a storyteller he leaves a lot to be desired. But this film looks great. It is how I want my future to look. I don't think Cameron captured the palette when he did Aliens, but he told a much better story.

There was just a lot of stupid stuff at the end that had me scratching my head. A lot of motivations that weren't really clear. Do Androids always have to be shifty?

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

Could the scientists have been any stupider in this film? We've just traveled three light years through space. Let's rush right in to investigate the strange alien structure without doing any safety checks what so ever. Let's just take off our helmets. Let's touch everything. And would someone make sure the android keeps hitting buttons that do things.

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

What this guys says.

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[Drunk Monk]

So there I was, in the hotel, hoping that my daughter's fever would break so she and my wife could join the party, receiving tons of random texts from the groom-2-b late into the night (and way early in the morning). Nerves? Of course. The hotel TV was wacked because it required two clickers - half of the functions worked on one and the rest on the other with very little rhyme or reason. I was also wrestling with insomnia, for which I lay full blame on LB, but that's another story entirely (he actually saved me by giving me a ride down).

So I watched Prometheus and was so glad that I didn't pay for it on iTunes like I was thinking of doing. Oh man. Major suckage. I liked Noomi. She looked ripped but still wasn't as macho as Ripley. I liked the aliens. I even thought Noomi's alien-ectomy was kind of funny. But the rest was a complete waste. Giger was so essential to Alien, and they completely lost that aesthetic. This makes Alien Resurrection look as good as Search for Spock (I have no idea what that means - my brain is still smeared across I-5)

I know, I know, this is a minor aside to the weekend's festivities, but all I could think about while watching it (and replying to G's texts) was that the only redemption was I could post here on this thread about how bad this was. Not even a sword fight could have saved this.

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

Well, if you had nerves DM, I didn't notice them. You seemed pretty calm to me.

[Drunk Monk]

BTW, both T and I got bites in our armpits from that Hampton. Hers is minor, thankfully. Mine is huge, swollen to nearly a half-dollar size, and right in the crease of my left armpit so it aches whenever I move my arm. I am beginning to worry that it is some sort of alien implant and I'll have to have an alien-ectomy ala Noomi.

[Drunk Monk]

The bites started to spread so I got worried that it was bubonic plague or something. So I went to the doctor, which I've been meaning to do as I just crossed that big half century mark. Hey, you elder DOOM bros should have warned me what an ordeal it is to visit the doctor when you're past 50. My doc got me set up on lisonopril for my high blood pressure and I have to go back next week to see how the meds are taking, plus take an additional full blood test (which I was planning to do anyway). She also sent me home with a 'poop' test kit, which if i fail, means a colonoscopy, which is really the 'playing doctor' scenario gone horribly horribly wrong. that's karma for ya. and i got some antihistamine meds (which cause drowsiness so i won't take them until tomorrow evening) and a topical itch cream for the bites. The dermatologist said it likely is bites and they may have come home with me in my luggage, which happens quite a lot apparently, so much so that many dermatolotgists leave their luggage in the garage for a week after coming home from a trip (great plan, if only i had a garage). So it was a relief to know that it isn't the plague, just my general tastiness to parasites again. Such is karma.

[Drunk Monk]

We had an outbreak of mites at the bungalow. I am bit to shit. It is possible that they traveled in my luggage. It is also possible that it was all coincidence. Mites are an issue here in Seabright. Many neighbors have had to deal with them. And right now (aka mite breeding grounds) our yard is out of control with grass, flowers and weeds. I think that the Hampton mite drew first blood and left some sort of subliminal signpost to other mites that says "free eats here" on my ass. I've been the all-you-can-eat buffet ever since.

We had the carpets professionally cleaned yesterday and are washing everything in hot. Tomorrow, we have someone to take care of the yard. The pets have been medicated for parasites. Did I mention that S pulled a worm off the cat's butt just prior to the wedding? No? Well, if not, it was because I didn't want to spoil the mood. She's on special worm med, which being a cat, she refuses to eat. "Just let the worms crawl outta my ass - I'm not fucking eating that crap no matter how much you wrap it in tasty treats" sez the cat. Hmmpf. Cats.

So I'm on clobetasol propionate ointment and hydroxyzine pills, neither of which seem to do much, but I shudder to think what kind of anaphylactic mess I'd be with out them. On top of adjusting to the lisinopril, which is leaving me with a nasty dry cough that keeps me up at night (but my blood pressure is nice and low now), the bite meds make me dizzy, sleepy and blur my vision. Fortunately my years of training with the grateful dead have left me well prepared to cope with such side effects. The itching is a bitch, but the coughing only lets me sleep for two hours or so before rousing me, and I have to fumble for my loquat syrup (best cough remedy ever - the only tasty Chinese med there is, so tasty you can pour it on your waffles). A few of the bites got infected despite my care. One always breaks open in the bath making a bloody mess.

I have three friends grappling hard with cancer right now so I can't really complain.

Fucking bugs. The alien invasion won't be some Giger-ian phallic-headed monstrosity. It'll be parasites so small that you can't even see 'em.

[Dr. Ivor Yeti]

Ugh. I am never going outside again, ever.

[Greg_phpbb3_import1]

Note to self: Don't visit parasite ground zero in Seabright.

[thatguy]

Is this the backstory for Prometheus 2?

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Ridley Scott’s 2016 Mystery Project Is Revealed As ‘Prometheus 2’

Well, that didn’t last too long. Last week 20th Century Fox announced a rash of future dates going as far as 2018. The big eye-grabber was a trio of super hero films, “The Wolverine 2,” a sequel to “The Fantastic Four” even with the first movie yet to start shooting and an Untitled Marvel Mystery movie for summer 2018, which has still not been revealed.

Only a few steps behind in the curiosity factor was an unnamed project for March 2016. Fans asked: what could it be? “Blade Runner 2”? No, that’s at Alcon/Warner Brothers and not at Fox, so it’s out. “The Forever War” maybe? Something else? As we surmised, carving out dates that far in advance had to be for something big and our guess was “Prometheus 2." And evidently that’s right on the money.

Scott’s project is a mystery no longer and confirmed to be the sequel to his “Alien” prequel from 2012 starring Noomi Rapace and Michael Fassbender. “Prometheus 2,” or whatever it will eventually be called, has also hired a new writer and apparently one that Scott likes. That would be Michael Green, who wrote the “Green Lantern” but was also hired to write Scott’s “Blade Runner” prequel/sequel/whatever it is in early 2013, so clearly he’s still in the director's good graces (which does bode well for the “Blade Runner” sequel). He’s been tasked to rewrite the first draft of “Prometheus 2” penned by Jack Paglen (“Transcendence”).

Production is supposed to begin this fall according to The Wrap, after Scott is done with his Moses film “Exodus” starring Christian Bale which is due in theaters in December. The publication also reports that the film may feature “multiple Davids” the android character played by Michael Fassbender. “Prometheus 2” will star Rapace and Fassbender and no one in the original cast for reasons that should be spoilerishly obvious.

--tg

[Drunk Monk]

I don't want a new alien. The old alien kicked ass.

New Alien To Be Introduced In Prometheus Sequel 5

By Andrew Steinbeiser 11/19/2014



The Prometheus sequel will reportedly debut an entirely new extraterrestrial to the world of Alien.

Bloody Disgusting unearthed an interview between Ridley Scott and The Australian, where the Alien Godfather teased an entirely new species of alien in his eventual Prometheus sequel.

“The alien’s real which is why it’s probably one of the scariest monsters in film history,” Scott told the news site. “So with Prometheus 2, what I’m trying to do is reintroduce a fresher form of alien in the third act.”

Scott also mentioned that he is staying away from any species used in past Aliens films, going so far as to say, “If I see one more dragon I’m going to shoot myself. Stop the dragons.” The use of God and Satan, another popular rumor surrounding the sequel, was also refuted by Scott.

A release date for Prometheus 2 has not been set, though it is rumored to land in theaters sometime in 2016. Scott said that the script is finished, describing it as “really good.”

http://comicbook.com/2014/11/19/new-alie...us-sequel/

[Dr. Ivor Yeti]

Saw this glorious stinkburger last week on cable. I am appalled that that script was funded. The film looked so great (Ridley is the King of Visuals). But the plot and the characters... Wow. What a bad movie.

[Drunk Monk]

Meanwhile, P2 just got interesting again.

New ‘Alien’ Movie Confirmed with Director Neill Blomkamp

February 18, 2015 | 04:32PM PT
Justin Kroll
Film Reporter @krolljvar

20th Century Fox has closed a deal with director Neill Blomkamp to develop a new “Alien” movie, sources confirm.

The untitled sci-fi project is separate from “Prometheus 2,” which Fox is still making with Ridley Scott.

Blomkamp, who directed “District 9″ and the upcoming Sony feature “Chappie,” had been teasing the project in recent months but said the extra-terrestrial reboot was likely abandoned. It was supposed to star “Alien” veteran Sigourney Weaver.

But on Wednesday Blomkamp confirmed the tentpole was back on track at Fox.

“So I think this is officially my next film,” he confirmed on Instagram.

It’s unclear whether Weaver is still attached to the movie.

According to insiders, the new “Alien” takes place years after the “Prometheus” sequel. Scott is producing both films through his production company Scott Free.

“Prometheus,” also distributed by Fox, was “loosely based” on the “Alien” franchise and earned over $400 million worldwide. But the 3D movie opened to mixed reviews, and Fox hopes Blomkamp, who last directed “Elysium,” can take the franchise to the next level.

Born in South Africa, the 35 year-old Blomkamp is repped by WME.

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