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The Meats We Eat
#16
...clearly you've never gone to Hebrew School! Part of our religious education was (Field Trip! Yay!) to go to a slaughterhouse (oy, not so yay!) and watch the *correct* way to kill an animal so that it is kosher. I don't know why they felt it necessary to graphically, visually explain this to a group of 9-13 year-olds; I don't think it will ever be necessary for me to kill my own meat and make sure it's kosher, but whatever.
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#17
That's very interesting though. I actually support that, at least for meat eaters. You got to see the animal die. I love kosher food. It's a great concept. Makes me hungry for those knishes and latkes, just thinking about it.

I remember when I was studying at Shaolin, they would sometimes slaughter the evening's dinner right outside the foreigner's training hall. Mind you, I studied at the Wushuguan, not in the actual temple, and the Wushuguan is government-owned, so there's plenty of meat eating. YOu could hear the squeals of the pigs and the chopping. Same went for a lot of the little restaurents in the area. The standing rule was never, never go into the kitchen.
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#18
I do intend to switch.
Soon.
But there are lingering issues.

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#19
Oh, heck. I guess I'll post this here. It has a little of everything. Surrealism. Boxing. Meat-packing.... But I suppose what I like most about it is that it has a tire iron -- WHICH DOESN'T GET USED ON A HUMAN BEING!
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#20
CF, remember that street meat market we walked through in Hong Kong? It was like one of those vegetable markets you see around here on designated weekdays, but instead of vegetables it was an open air slaughterhouse/butcher market. The street was flooded with blood. Animals screaming. Loud chopping. That was one of the most carnal places I've ever been to.
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#21
Okay, who is going to read the book by Michael Pollan and give us a report? I'm sure it will be fascinating and give us lots of ugly truths that we really need to learn.

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#22
I loved Botany of Desire. Pollan is a great writer - very entertaining and thought-provoking.
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#23
I used to think that I was up to eating pretty much anything that was being served, but at a recent dinner one of our friends ordered the bone marrow appetizer and IT STUNK. REALLY BAD! So I just couldn't do it.
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#24
how can you tell when marrow has gone bad?

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#25
Bad marrow is easily identified by the special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions and the sesame seed bun covering it up.
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#26
I thought that was just for tumors...?
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#27
It's been so long since I've eaten marrow/tumors, I've forgotten which is the mcnugget and which is the whopper. :oops:
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#28
I'm picking up on the OtH/RB thread here
http://brotherhoodofdoom.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=411

Snake bile is commonly used for lung issues. Several years ago I was hospitalized for pnuemonia. When I got out, I went to a traditional Chinese medicine specialist for some alternatives, and they gave me this OTC powder to dissolve in water, sanshedan. I was just learning how to translate Chinese, and decoded the characters: three snake bile. Later, in Shaolin, I had a cough and went to another TCM doc, a strange hunchbacked man living in a cellar with racks and racks of herbs. He gave me snake bile too. Fortunately, due to my previous experience, I wasn't in the least bit shocked (at least not by the prescription, maybe a bit by the prescriber) and in both situations, it cleared up my lungs right quick.

In China, it's not uncommon to see live snakes in cages in the front windows of restaurants, just like you see live seafood in Chinese restaurents here. There's a traditional meal built around a freshly killed snake. I've never had it, but been witness to it on neighboring table. Like Peking Duck, every part of the animal is used, served up in a series of progressive courses. For snake, it begins with a shot of medicinal liquor. Floating in the shot is the bile bladder, a fleshy pouch about the size of a garbanzo bean, and a toothpick. You pierce the bladder with the toothpick, and the bile mixes with the clear alcohol, usually maotai, and it becomes cloudy. Then you do the shot.

I've had fried snake and snake soup. The most notorius Chinese snake dish is called Dragon and Tiger, which I never plan on having (remember, my stunt meat eating days are done). The snake is the dragon obviously. The tiger is cat.
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#29
DM, what about Geoduck? Do you still eat that, or was it also left behind with the stunt eating? Or chicken feet? Or tendon? Or tongue? (I really like tongue, but it can be a little disgusting when you look at the open end of the burrito and see the taste buds on the chunks of meat.)
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#30
Geoduck is still allowed, but DM would probably give it a pass. DM never developed a taste for it.

Chicken feet are too much work. It's just tough skin, tendon and bone. My boss loves 'em and while gnaw on them whenever we go out to dim sum with some master. DM never developed a taste for that either. And it's not allowed.

Tendon can be good if done right. Beef tendon soup is quite an experience, but again, it must be done right. That's not allowed either now, but DM has seen vegetarian beef tendon soup, which just sounds funny as hell.

Tongue, well, DM has always had the policy of avoiding any part of the digestive system including tongue, tripe, and intestine. It just never seemed right to teach your digestive system to like digesting digestive system. Wouldn't want that system to start liking itself and devour itself now, would we? I once had a traditional goat head burrito, cooked in a suburban kitchen in Sunnyvale. The goat heads were wrapped in foil and left to slow cook in the oven. When you pulled them out, they looked just like what you'd thinkg baked goat heads might look like. Their eyes were all rolled up and foggy. Their tongues were hanging out. One guy cut a big piece out of the tongue for his burrito.

What about you, KB? What's your stance on such foods? Why do you ask?
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