RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Dr. Ivor Yeti - 09-30-2016
The photo makes me cry.
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Quote:Terry Jones: ‘I’ve got dementia. My frontal lobe has absconded’
The Monty Python star talks about learning to live with his illness
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Old friends Michael Palin and Terry Jones, right, at Jones’s home in London this month. Photograph: Robin McKie for the Observer
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Sunday 16 April 2017 01.05 EDTLast modified on Monday 17 April 2017 14.11 EDT
Terry Jones first exhibited signs that all was not well with his health in July 2014. He and his close friend Michael Palin were performing with the rest of the surviving Monty Python’s Flying Circus troupe in a show of sketches and songs, Monty Python live (mostly) at the O2 in London.
“Terry was always very good at remembering lines,” recalled Palin last week. “But this time he had real problems, and in the end he had to use a teleprompter. That was a first for him. I realised then that something more serious than memory lapses was affecting him.”
Jones, now 75, later passed standard tests designed to pinpoint people who have Alzheimer’s disease. His speech continued to deteriorate nevertheless. “He said less and less at dinner parties, when he used to love to lead conversations,” said his daughter Sally.
Eventually, in September 2015, Jones was diagnosed as having frontotemporal dementia (FTD), a condition that affects the front and sides of the brain, where language and social control centres are based. When cells there die off, people lose their ability to communicate, and their behaviour becomes increasingly erratic and impulsive. Unlike Alzheimer’s, there is no loss of reasoning or orientation. However, planning, decision making and speech are affected, and patients often seem less caring or concerned about their family and friends.
Sally recalls that even though her father’s speech was faltering, he was still initially able to outline his plans and thoughts by email. “However, the emails slowly became more and more jumbled, and by autumn last year he had to give up,” she said. “For someone who lived by words and discussions this was tragic.”
Jones’s family revealed his condition to the public six months ago, and at last year’s Bafta Cymru ceremony in October, his son Bill had to help his father collect his award for outstanding contribution to television and film. The only words that Jones was able to utter were to tell his audience to “quieten down”.
Jones was not expected to talk to the press again – until last week, when his family requested an interview to help promote public awareness of FTD, a condition that affects tens of thousands of people in the UK but which remains a relatively little-known medical problem. Their hope was that information about Jones’s responses to his condition might help others cope with it.
“Many patients, particularly those in the early stages of the condition, are often unaware they have anything wrong with them at all,” said Professor Nick Fox, a dementia expert who has been involved in the diagnosis and care of Jones. “It is only later – when FTD is diagnosed – that you get some inkling of the root of their earlier behaviour. People may not show sympathy or concern for others, including their spouses – much to the consternation of the rest of their family,” added Fox, who is director of the Dementia Research Centre at University College London.
Loss of language nevertheless remains the most noticeable symptom of FTD. In the case of Jones, his dialogue is now restricted to a few words, usually uttered to agree with those who are speaking to him. Apart from that, he looks fit for his years. Dressed in black trousers, shirt and jacket and lurid purple socks, he cut a trim figure during our interview. He remains an enthusiastic walker, likes his beer and wine, and watches old films compulsively. Some Like It Hot is a favourite.
Palin is a frequent visitor to Jones’s home and the affection between the two men is clear from the start. They clasp each other warmly on Palin’s arrival and Jones looks relieved to see him. “The thing that struck me was how Terry reacted to his diagnosis,” said Palin. “He was very matter of fact about it and would stop people in the street and tell them: ‘I’ve got dementia, you know. My frontal brain lobe has absconded’.
“He knew exactly what was affecting him and he wanted to share that knowledge – because that is the way that Terry is. FTD may cause loss of inhibition, but Terry was never very inhibited in the first place.”
Palin and Jones first started working together in 1965 on The Frost Report, a collaboration that culminated in the formation of the Monty Python Flying Circus team in 1969. Jones was also co-director (with Terry Gilliam) of Monty Python and The Holy Grail before directing the Python films Life of Brian and The Meaning of Life. He went on to direct other films, including Personal Services and The Wind in the Willows. He has also written books on medieval history and the Iraq war (to which he was bitterly opposed).
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The Pythons in 2014, at the time of the last live show. Photograph: Andy Gotts/PA
The pair still regularly have lunch together. “We chat – well, I chat,” added Palin. “But when the meal is over he makes it clear he has to move. He has to get to the next thing on his agenda and he just puts his head down and goes. I have never felt discomfited in his presence, however. There is no embarrassment. He doesn’t shout or show his bottom.”
Only taxis cause problems. “He always wants to give directions and he hates traffic,” said Sally. “That is nothing new in a sense. He always knew a better way and would always let the taxi driver know that very early on in the journey.” At this point, Jones nods vigorously.
In contrast with other forms of dementia, walking or moving around is not usually a problem with FTD. “Terry still goes on very long walks across Hampstead Heath, often following the most obscure routes, and it is very hard to keep up with him,” said Palin. “His old pal Barry Cryer, the comedian, came round one day and said he would like to join Terry on a walk on the heath, and nothing would deter him. It was a muddy day and Barry kept slipping while Terry just walked on and on. In the end, Barry fell over so many times he gave up. He told me that there he was on his backside in the mud while his friend who had dementia was striding out miles ahead of him across the heath.”
Certainly Jones is no shuffling, helpless victim of cognitive degeneration. “He still enjoys his beer, his wine, his walks, his films and a good joke,” added Palin. “These are not things you associate with a depressive illness.” However, the condition can still cause problems, as Fox stresses.
“The frontal lobe contains the brain cells which act as our social censor,” he says. “Essentially it is a handbrake on our behaviour. Take that off and you start to act impulsively. People get into all sorts of trouble – particularly if they are also losing the ability to speak and to explain their actions.
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The team in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, which Jones co-directed with Terry Gilliam. Photograph: Allstar
“People with FTD end up in prison in this way. It is made worse because people with FTD have no insight into their condition. They are not aware that things are going wrong for them.”
This lack of insight can have profound consequences, Fox added. “The head of a company in the early stages of FTD has no idea that his insight has been compromised and can make decisions that have enormous consequences. There are companies that have lost all their money this way.”
A tendency to impulsive action is also noticeable. “Food can be a particular problem,” said Sally. “As soon as it is put down in front of him he will grab it and eat it. We made him a birthday cake a few weeks ago. He started to eat it before we could get him to blow out the candles.”
And then there are other people’s perceptions of his condition, which can also cause distress. “Friends often ask: will he recognise me?,” added Sally.
“I tell them: of course he will. It is his speech that has gone. In fact, he loves seeing friends. His only problem is that he no longer has the ability to tell them how pleased he is to see them.”
It is a point endorsed by Palin. “I think that must be the most difficult thing – not to be able to say quite simply how you are feeling on a given occasion. We assume that he is happy, but that assumption could be wrong. We just don’t know.”
Certainly, it is hard to believe that Jones is unaware of his condition. However, he is clearly consoled by the support of his family, who help to keep his life enriched.
It is also obvious he gets strength from the presence of Palin. Towards the end of our interview, Jones reaches out to grasp his hand, giving it a good squeeze. The pair hold hands for a couple of minutes, a gesture that perfectly reflects their 50 years of friendship – and its importance in sustaining Jones through his tribulations.
Where to find help
• The FTD support group provides practical help and information for people with the disorder and their families. Their website gives details of meetings in different regions of the UK – an important way to meet others coping with similar problems that may seem very different from those experienced in more common dementias.
• A specialist progressive aphasia support group offers help for those whose speech and language are affected.
• Jargon-free research updates can be found at www.ftdtalk.org
• The dementia research centre at UCL has a specialist focus on young-onset dementias and is linked to the cognitive disorders service at the National Hospital for Neurology and Neurosurgery, which receives NHS referrals for people with FTD.
• Join Dementia Research enables people both with and without dementia to register an interest in taking part in research.
Absconded. Terry is facing this with such dignity. And Michael is being a true friend. Sad news, but somehow heartwarming to know that through it all, they still have their sense of humor.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Greg - 04-18-2017
I thought it was a really good article.
right? - Drunk Monk - 04-18-2017
There's a really heartfelt documentary to be made on Terry.
Actually, each of the Pythons could be the subject of an amazing doc.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-04-2018
Netflix just dropped a ton of python.
There goes my October viewing.
Monty Python’s Fliegender Zircus
Wow. I never knew. These are 2 eps done in German. It’s some redos from the original series and some stuff that’s completely different. Mostly it’s Cleese & Palin as they are both fluent in German. Feels a bit tone deaf today - the rapists, the deaf race, even the lumberjack sketch are now very not PC, but I gotta give praise to the lumberjack song in German, which seems to work even better. The Bavarian restaurant sketch was awesome - still luv Chapman’s American accent. How I miss him. Durer ftw! That was just ep1. Gonna save ep2 for later. Certainly redeemed my evening after the VRV Man at Arms s2e1 fail.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-04-2018
I just saw a tweet that said today is the 29th anniversary of Graham’s passing. Didn’t double check but daaaaaaamn
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-05-2018
Monty Python: Before the Flying Circus
This 2000 B&W doc explores the history of the boys and the formation of the pythons. Highly recommended. There's some amazing vintage footage, old photos and interview material with all the surviving 5 (this was prior to Jones' dementia and he's quite coherent). It's only a 55 min doc - well worth your time.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-07-2018
Monty Python’s Fliegender Zircus Episode 2
Not as good as episode 1. It's done in English and rehash of a lot of previous skits only done in different locations, where there are a lot of signs in German. The German language in ep 1 was a major part of the appeal, and there was more fresh stuff (I say fresh but I mean fresh to me as these were made in '72). Apparently ep 2 was dubbed into German in post, but that's not retained on Netflix. The opening skit about rich financial moguls being uncontrollable rapists is so dated now, downright offensive. So are a minstrel appearance and the special olympics skit. So I recommend ep1 highly, but ep2, not so much.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-07-2018
The Meaning of Monty Python
Shot in 2013, it’s an hour of the 5 surviving pythons just chatting about stuff. Eric is on telly in LA, the others are all together in the U.K. presumably. It’s great - funny, smart, provocative, brilliant as ever. It’s great to see them making each other laugh. There’s a bit of sadness as Terry Jones drifts off, failing to conclude some thoughts, which at the time was likely thought of as the course of conversation, but now might be seen as the onset of his dementia. But that’s just a moment. The rest is just wonderful - they all retain their razor-sharp wit and intellect, now more tempered by the wisdom of experience. Highly recommended.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 10-12-2018
The Meaning of Live
This is a doc made around the 2014 show, which I saw as a Fathom event. It catches a more candid perspective of the Pythons then, almost better than the show itself, delving into history and development of the show, and explores the personality dynamics. It's good, funny, and poignant again as Jones talks about his fading memory. I did laugh out loud a few times, just like with the aforementioned documentaries. The Pythons are just really funny when they are spontaneous - they always get me with something. The comments by Mike Myers and the making of the Stephen Hawking bit was interesting. I think it probably works better having seen that show, which I believe is also available on Netflix now - One Down, Five to Go - although I have no intention of rewatching that.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 12-29-2018
And then, the oral sex...
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Michael to be Knighted
Michael Palin has been knighted in the 2019 New Year Honours list.
He is being recognised for services to travel, culture and geography following his career as a writer and presenter of documentaries that have taken him all over the world, most recently to North Korea.
He said to mark the achievement, he may "just have a quiet celebration, just myself and a glass of Horlicks and then go to bed".
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - thatguy - 02-28-2019
What are y’all doing for st Patty’s day? If I’m over the hill that day, I may try to make this:
https://cinequest.org/
Cinequest’s grand Closing Night gives the audience one of the most anticipated films-a film almost 30 years in the making-iconic director Terry Gilliam’s adventure-comedy The Man Who Killed Don Quixote.
Brimming with imaginative ideas from the very beginning, Gilliam’s magnum opus celebrates its source material with delight-as it takes on the classic adventures of Don Quixote and infuses it with a reflective commentary on art and the madness of our own world.
Adam Driver (Girl, Star Wars) is Toby, a young artist who has lost the zeal for his craft and is working in advertising. One night, while in a Spanish tavern, he is given a copy of a student film he made ten years ago about Don Quixote. Realizing he is not far from where he shot it, he revisits the small village and discovers the profound effects the movie has had there. In fact, the shoemaker (Jonathan Pryce, Brazil) he had cast as his lead actually believes he IS Don Quixote, and is now convinced Toby is his Sancho Panza.
Thus begins a strange and magical journey across Spain, where reality and dreams merge into a surreal landscape that is at times chaotic, hilarious, fantastical, and exactly the visionary experience to be expected from the masterful Gilliam. With top performances from both Pryce and Driver, Gilliam’s penchant for compelling chaos is indulged in the most amazing ways, with sequences that elicit gasps of both astonishment and wonder in plentiful supply. It’s an experience of magical proportions!
Party Location: Corinthian Grand Ballroom (196 North 3rd St.)
—tg
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 02-28-2019
Ooooh tempting. Depends on my mom.
RE: Who's the biggest Monty Python fan in DOOM? - Drunk Monk - 06-18-2019
Quote:KNIGHT WHO SAYS 'NI!'
Monty Python legend Michael Palin bows as he’s knighted by Prince William
- 13 Jun 2019, 1:52
- Updated: 13 Jun 2019, 1:52
COMEDY legend Michael Palin goes down on one knee to be knighted yesterday.
The broadcaster, 76, who starred as one of the Knights Who Say “Ni!” in Monty Python and the Holy Grail, was honoured by Prince William at Buckingham Palace.
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Michael and the Prince discussed travel, with Sir Michael resisting the temptation to crack a joke during the investiture at Buckingham Palace on Wednesday.
"He talked about where I was going next, any parts of the world I really wanted to go that I hadn't already - to which I normally say Middlesbrough," the broadcaster said.
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Instead he went for the far-flung location of Kazakhstan.
Travel show presenter Michael said: “It’s very, very nice to be recognised.”
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Michael and the Prince discussed travel, with Sir Michael resisting the temptation to crack a joke during the investiture at Buckingham Palace
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Palin, far right, as one of the Knights who say Ni! in Monty Python and the Holy GrailCredit: Kobal Collection - Shutterstock
Sir Michael is the only Python to be knighted - but he said John Cleese has turned down the chance.
Cleese refused a CBE in 1996 and said it was a greater honour to have a lemur named after him than it would be receiving a knighthood or peerage.
Once again, Cleese speaks truth.
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